Death

Concordo in pieno su TSOP meno sul citare anche, per lo meno, Symbolic fra gli album "malsani, arcigni e vissuti" della loro seconda parte di carriera...personalmente, per motivi non streattamente musicali in fin dei conti, lo trovo simile a Perseverance. Ci metterei più uno Spiritual Healing fra quelli summenzionati e direi "ed in parte Symbolic". Per il resto quoto tutto

 

L'onda di lunga di Chuck Schuldiner continua ad influenzare il metal anche oggi a distanza di dieci anni dalla sua morte e non solo in termini musicali.
Ed infatti numerosi ex-membri dei leggendari Death parteciperanno alle cinque date statunitensi del Death To All Tour, organizzato da Sick Drummer Magazine e Perseverance Holdings Ltd. con lo scopo di celebrare Schuldiner e di raccogliere fondi per il Sweet Relief Musicians Fund, associazione che dà assistenza finanziaria a musicisti impossibilitati a continuare le loro carriere causa di malattie o problemi d'età.
Ecco i nomi che prenderanno parte a questo tour: Gene Hoglan e Sean Reinert saranno i batteristi, Steve DiGiorgio e Scott Clendenin i bassisti ed alle chitarre troveremo Paul Masvidal, Shannon Hamm e Bobby Koelble.




Chi Viene Con me in america?

 

Grandi assenti: Chris Reifert, Rick Rozz, Kam Lee, Terry Butler, Bill Andrews, James Murphy

E a proposito del primo batterista dei Death, vi posto una sua intervista a Metal Rules dove parla di Chuck e dei primi tempi con la band:

BLABBERMOUTH.NET - Former DEATH Drummer CHRIS REIFERT Remembers Playing With CHUCK SCHULDINER

Questo un estratto:

Metal-Rules.com: Chuck recorded 5 other albums after "Leprosy", and I guess it's not any overstatement to say, but each of his albums was hugely praised by both the media and the fans of DEATH. How did you like his later era albums, like "Symbolic" and "The Sound Of Perseverance" that were Chuck's two last studio album with DEATH?

Chris: To be honest, they got a bit technical for my taste. I much prefer the more primitive and savage stuff.

 

ma menomale che si sono evoluti ci saremmo persi altri 5 capolavori e probabilmente se non fosserò arrivati a tali livelli sarebberò si considerati un gran gruppo ma messo nel calderone insieme ad altri mille, mentre grazie alla loro evoluzione che li rende unici, noi tutti possiamo veramente considerarli unici, irripetibili, nessuno raggiungerà mai certe vette, poi vabbè io adoro anche i pestilence e forse un disco come testimony lo preferisco a tutto quello fatto dai death, ma questo è un'altro discorso.

 

Ed ancora su Chuck:

Metal Rules: When was the first time you heard Death (or Mantas, pre-Death), and do you remember what song it was? What initial impact did it make on you?

Chris Reifert (AUTOPSY, ex-DEATH): Well, that would have been right when the band name changed. I had a friend who ordered the Mantas demo and they got the Death demo in the mail. Same tape, just freshly changed name. "Legion of Doom" would have been the first song I heard since it was the first one on the tape. I do remember it sounding really heavy, raw and brutal with vocals deeper than I'd ever heard before. It was pretty damn exciting to hear and after that, I collected the other demos as they came out.

Danny Lilker (NUCLEAR ASSAULT, BRUTAL TRUTH): I guess that would've been when I heard the INFERNAL DEATH demo, so I guess the title track would've been the first song I ever heard from them. I enjoyed it immediately, I liked the primitive nature of the early stuff they did, it was almost like the US answer to Hellhammer in a way. I remember the other guys in Nuclear Assault saying "What is this crap?".

Lasse Pyykkö (CLAWS, HOODED MENACE, PHLEGETHON): It was one of those "Speed Kills" compilation LP´s back in the day where I discovered Death for the first time. Must have been ´87 or ´88. The track was “Beyond the Unholy Grave” and it just blew me away! Brutal, aggressive yet well played and well structured stuff with the best growled vocals I had ever heard. Yeah, they definitely got a new fan!



Terry Butler (ex-DEATH, ex-MASSACRE, OBITUARY): I was aware of Mantas from the time they recorded the demo. Bill Andrews told me he heard a demo from a band called Mantas and it was crushing. So I was very interested. I was at a Nasty Savage concert at Ruby's in 1983 and saw chuck walking around with Mantas demos. I bought one from him. Yes, it was an impact; it was heavy and raw. I was very much into Venom, Hellhammer and Bathory at the time so Mantas was right there with them in my book.

Dave Rotten (AVULSED, XTREEM MUSIC): First thing I heard was the SCREAM BLOODY GORE album in ‘87. Here in Spain it was nearly impossible to get import stuff at that time. Then the same year I was heavily into tape-trading and got quite a few demos & live stuff. The first impact I got was that they were just the Possessed clones, because I had already heard SEVEN CHURCHES before and it was basically the only possible comparison. After more listenings my opinion was more concrete and they didn’t look so similar although the influence was abvious.

Laurent Merle (LISTENABLE RECORDS): I had some really shitty super downtuned copies of the reh / demo tapes that I got through tape trading, I was convinced they were monsters or completely crazy guys back in the day for doing this music. I remember listening to Mantas and an early Death rehearsal featuring their new song "Baptized in Blood" (probably around in 1985) and I was really fast and evil; I was blown away. It wasn't the first time I listened to Death / Mantas but this song really struck me. "Evil Dead" and "Zombie Ritual" were classics too.

Bob Bagchus (ASPHYX): I heard Death for the first time in 198 when I got the DEATH BY METAL demo (Mantas) by tape trading - and the whole tape blew me away for sure. "Legions of Doom" is still a favourite. But this was for sure pure Death Metal. Also the vocals of Kam Lee were very extreme back then, and still are now. I also liked the way he was drumming: simple and effective. Also Chuck's riffing was brutal and he had those catchy 'easy-to-remember' brutal riffs that I still adore to date.

John McEntee (INCANTATION, FUNERUS): The first time I heard that was when I was hanging out with Henry Veggian and Jim Plotkin and we are probably making our weekly visits to all record stores. Every time we would hang out it seemed like those guys had another demo of a new band for me to check out. I remember them telling me that I have to check this and Death out so I popped it in. It was a cassette tape with the INFERNAL DEATH demo, DEATH BY METAL demo THE REIGN OF TERROR demo. One of the first things I realized was just how wrong and aggressive it was there were many things I heard at that time that had such a underground wall sickness to it. The songs were very untight but you could hear that there was a feeling in their that was some of the sickest stuff out there at the time. I was instantly a fan. A few years later I remember getting a copy from Chris of the MUTILATION demo and I was totally blown away. Once SCREAM BLOODY GORE came out it was all over. Especially for the time that was one of the greatest Death Metal releases. It had a great production but also was able keep the raw edge. That is one helpful that will always mean a lot to me and I credit as changing my life and the way I look at Extreme Metal.

Pest (GORGOROTH): I first heard Death as a young teenager (13-14 years old). It was the "Leprsoy" song, and it deffinately made an impression. I was unaware of SCREAM BLOODY GORE at the time, but it didn't take me long to find that one too.

Mike Browning (ex-MORBID ANGEL, ex-NOCTURNUS, AFTER DEATH): For me it was quite early with the Mantas stuff because we did a few shows with the first Massacre lineup back when I was in Morbid Angel. I really liked all the old Mantas and Massacre stuff and it was cool to start networking with other Florida bands back in the 80's.

Esa Lindén (DEMIGOD): I think it was 1987 when I first time heard the classic SCREAM BLOODY GORE album. I listened to it with my cousin Tero (Laitinen) and thought what the hell is this? At that point Kreator, Possessed and Destruction were bands I enjoyed listening to but Death was something different; brutal and heavier than anything that I had heard before. I was looking for more extreme bands and Death fitted perfectly into that category. The first Death song that I heard from Death, must have been "Infernal Death". I immediately lost my soul for them.




L'articolo completo qui:

Metal-Rules.com Zine - Remembering Chuck: A Tribute To Chuck Schuldiner

 

Uh!

 

Per quanto rispetti la tua opinione, sono totalmente in disaccordo con essa! Per quanto The Sound Of Perseverance sia diverso dagli album precedenti dei Death, a mio parere è molto più simile a Symbolic rispetto a The Fragile Art Of Existence! Già in Symbolic le composizioni si erano fatto più lunghe e articolate (ma mai prolisse, nè stantie nè, tantomeno, noiose, cosa che vale ancor più per The Sound Of Perseverance, sempre a mio avviso) e, in genere, il tiro dei pezzi è maggiormente simile! Per me The Sound Of Perseverance è uno degli apici non solo dei Death (mi risulta comunque difficile conservare - conservare è proprio la parola più adatta - un preferito passando all'ascolto degli ultimi 4 sigilli targati Death) ma di tutto il movimento metal!

 

ma infatti ho detto forse. Io comunque adoro i pestilence dove a parte l'ultimo aborto hanno fatto solo grandi dischi e sono particolarmente attaccato a testimony of the ancient ,ho consumato e lo consumo tutt'ora quel disco, ma non mi sembra che con questo ho svalutato i death, perchè se no mi viene il dubbio che leggi solo quello che vuoi, visto che ho detto che i death sono un gruppo unico nel loro genere e se non fosse così non avrei in un progetto futuro prima devo finire il mio tatuaggio attuale, farmi tatuare il viso di chuck capisci.

 

Ma figurati Angus, il mio Uh! era sarcastico non ho mai pensato ad una tua svalutazione dei Death
Bella l'idea del tatuaggio del viso di Chuck

 

bhe era appunto quel sarcasmo che non capivo,voglio dire testimony è un fottuto capolavoro

 

Rispetto anche io la tua che va per la maggiore come opinione.
Ma attenzione, però, che ritenere Perseverance apice della discografia dei Death e di tutto il movimento metal non è da ritenersi certo un plebiscito.

 

no ma se non si evolvevano rimanevano una cult band per i conservatori di certe sonorità, evolvendosi sono diventati il gruppo fantastico che sono diventati, poi nessuno discute la qualità dei primi tre album ma con i successivi sono andati oltre ogni immaginabile aspettativa sono arrivati dove ancora nessuno osava semplicemente avanti anni luce.

 

A parte Perseverance, a me piacciono tutti i loro dischi, ma non ci sarei rimasto cosi male se non si fossero evoluti e avessero continuato con il primordiale e seminale death metal degli esordi

 

Per me l'apice nel Death Metal "puro" e "incontaminato" l'hanno raggiunto con Human. ITP è un disco clamoroso ma già si avvertono passaggi più tecnici ed avvisaglie più "progressive". Enfatizzati poi (a volte, troppo per i miei gusti) in Symbolic e The Sound of Perseverance

 

più che tecnica fine a se stessa direi *autocensura* fini a se stesse, abbondanti in post come questo.

scusa la franchezza eh ma certe cose non si possono proprio leggere...